Verba tu fingas et ea dicas, quae non sentias? Nunc dicam de voluptate, nihil scilicet novi, ea tamen, quae te ipsum probaturum esse confidam. Nunc ita separantur, ut disiuncta sint, quo nihil potest esse perversius. Quae si potest singula consolando levare, universa quo modo sustinebit? Murenam te accusante defenderem. Vide, quantum, inquam, fallare, Torquate.
Tum ille timide vel potius verecunde: Facio, inquit. Nobis Heracleotes ille Dionysius flagitiose descivisse videtur a Stoicis propter oculorum dolorem. At quicum ioca seria, ut dicitur, quicum arcana, quicum occulta omnia? Uterque enim summo bono fruitur, id est voluptate. Sed quot homines, tot sententiae; Nam illud vehementer repugnat, eundem beatum esse et multis malis oppressum.
Non quaero, quid dicat, sed quid convenienter possit rationi et sententiae suae dicere. Hanc quoque iucunditatem, si vis, transfer in animum; Quoniam, si dis placet, ab Epicuro loqui discimus. Nam et complectitur verbis, quod vult, et dicit plane, quod intellegam;
Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Si enim ad populum me vocas, eum. Illa videamus, quae a te de amicitia dicta sunt. Primum in nostrane potestate est, quid meminerimus? Utinam quidem dicerent alium alio beatiorem! Iam ruinas videres. Aut unde est hoc contritum vetustate proverbium: quicum in tenebris? Frater et T. Atqui eorum nihil est eius generis, ut sit in fine atque extrerno bonorum. Equidem e Cn. Audax negotium, dicerem impudens, nisi hoc institutum postea translatum ad philosophos nostros esset. At negat Epicurus-hoc enim vestrum lumen estquemquam, qui honeste non vivat, iucunde posse vivere. At enim sequor utilitatem.
Sic enim censent, oportunitatis esse beate vivere. Hoc simile tandem est? Hos contra singulos dici est melius.
Collatio igitur ista te nihil iuvat. Itaque ab his ordiamur. Quis istud possit, inquit, negare? Quo modo autem philosophus loquitur? Idemque diviserunt
naturam hominis in animum et corpus. Nam si quae sunt aliae, falsum est omnis animi voluptates esse e corporis societate. Quae qui non vident, nihil umquam magnum ac cognitione dignum amaverunt.
Quae animi affectio suum cuique tribuens atque hanc, quam dico. An hoc usque quaque, aliter in vita? Te enim iudicem aequum puto, modo quae dicat ille bene noris. Terram, mihi crede, ea lanx et maria deprimet. Si verbum sequimur, primum longius verbum praepositum quam bonum. Scio enim esse quosdam, qui quavis lingua philosophari possint; Nunc haec primum fortasse audientis servire debemus. Minime vero, inquit ille, consentit.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Qui ita affectus, beatum esse numquam probabis; Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Iam in altera philosophiae parte. Videsne quam sit magna dissensio? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Occultum facinus esse potuerit, gaudebit; Nonne videmus quanta perturbatio rerum omnium consequatur, quanta confusio? Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius. Aperiendum est igitur, quid sit voluptas;
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Restatis igitur vos; Erit enim instructus ad mortem contemnendam, ad exilium, ad ipsum etiam dolorem. Tum ille timide vel potius verecunde: Facio, inquit. Apud ceteros autem philosophos, qui quaesivit aliquid, tacet; Mihi enim satis est, ipsis non satis. Tu vero, inquam, ducas licet, si sequetur; Eaedem enim utilitates poterunt eas labefactare atque pervertere.
Collige omnia, quae soletis: Praesidium amicorum. Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Non minor, inquit, voluptas percipitur ex vilissimis rebus quam ex pretiosissimis. Quid est igitur, cur ita semper deum appellet Epicurus beatum et aeternum? Sic, et quidem diligentius saepiusque ista loquemur inter nos agemusque communiter. Ait enim se, si uratur, Quam hoc suave! dicturum. Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Ita ceterorum sententiis semotis relinquitur non mihi cum Torquato, sed virtuti cum voluptate certatio.
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