An eum discere ea mavis, quae cum plane perdidiceriti nihil sciat? Qui ita affectus, beatum esse numquam probabis; Dulce amarum, leve asperum, prope longe, stare movere, quadratum rotundum. Idem iste, inquam, de voluptate quid sentit? Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Etsi ea quidem, quae adhuc dixisti, quamvis ad aetatem recte isto modo dicerentur.
An vero displicuit ea, quae tributa est animi virtutibus tanta praestantia? Immo istud quidem, inquam, quo loco quidque, nisi iniquum postulo, arbitratu meo. Ut nemo dubitet, eorum omnia officia quo spectare, quid sequi, quid fugere debeant? Summum ením bonum exposuit vacuitatem doloris; Quae animi affectio suum cuique tribuens atque hanc, quam dico. Hoc enim identidem dicitis, non intellegere nos quam dicatis voluptatem.
Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Hoc ipsum elegantius poni meliusque potuit. Ita cum ea volunt retinere, quae superiori sententiae conveniunt, in Aristonem incidunt; Tum Quintus: Est plane, Piso, ut dicis, inquit.
Sed ad haec, nisi molestum est, habeo quae velim. Quod non faceret, si in voluptate summum bonum poneret. Nam cui proposito sit conservatio sui, necesse est huic partes quoque sui caras suo genere laudabiles. Vestri haec verecundius, illi fortasse constantius.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Huius ego nunc auctoritatem sequens idem faciam. In qua si nihil est praeter rationem, sit in una virtute finis bonorum; Sint ista Graecorum; Quis non odit sordidos, vanos, leves, futtiles? Huius, Lyco, oratione locuples, rebus ipsis ielunior. Quae enim adhuc protulisti, popularia sunt, ego autem a te elegantiora desidero. Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris? Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Rapior illuc, revocat autem Antiochus, nec est praeterea, quem audiamus. An vero, inquit, quisquam potest probare, quod perceptfum, quod.
Faceres tu quidem, Torquate,
haec omnia; Universa enim illorum ratione cum tota vestra confligendum puto. Quasi vero, inquit, perpetua oratio rhetorum solum, non etiam philosophorum sit. Qui autem de summo bono dissentit de tota philosophiae ratione dissentit. Quid, quod homines infima fortuna, nulla spe rerum gerendarum, opifices denique delectantur historia? Invidiosum nomen est, infame, suspectum.
Nunc de hominis summo bono quaeritur; Atqui reperies, inquit, in hoc quidem pertinacem; An dolor longissimus quisque miserrimus, voluptatem non optabiliorem diuturnitas facit?
An eum discere ea mavis, quae cum plane perdidiceriti nihil sciat? Similiter sensus, cum accessit ad naturam, tuetur illam quidem, sed etiam se tuetur; Tollitur beneficium, tollitur gratia, quae sunt vincla concordiae. Solum praeterea formosum, solum liberum, solum civem, stultost; Ipse Epicurus fortasse redderet, ut Sextus Peducaeus, Sex. Satis est tibi in te, satis in legibus, satis in mediocribus amicitiis praesidii. Tum Lucius: Mihi vero ista valde probata sunt, quod item fratri puto. Experiamur igitur, inquit, etsi habet haec Stoicorum ratio difficilius quiddam et obscurius.
Quem si tenueris, non modo meum Ciceronem, sed etiam me ipsum abducas licebit. Nam et complectitur verbis, quod vult, et dicit plane, quod intellegam; Quamquam id quidem, infinitum est in hac urbe; Nam Metrodorum non puto ipsum professum, sed, cum appellaretur ab Epicuro, repudiare tantum beneficium noluisse; Tubulo putas dicere? Quis enim est, qui non videat haec esse in natura rerum tria?
Quae cum ita sint, effectum est nihil esse malum, quod turpe non sit. Iam id ipsum absurdum, maximum malum neglegi. Longum est enim ad omnia respondere, quae a te dicta sunt. Quae cum essent dicta, finem fecimus et ambulandi et disputandi. Haec quo modo conveniant, non sane intellego. Ex rebus enim timiditas, non ex vocabulis nascitur. De ingenio eius in his disputationibus, non de moribus quaeritur. An tu me de L. Iam id ipsum
absurdum, maximum malum neglegi.
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